tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313916164911265633.post2452001400097068663..comments2023-08-10T14:58:46.329+07:00Comments on Authority!: Abortion: A Rational ViewTimothy J Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10634355920003282809noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313916164911265633.post-41858188379811179162011-01-28T10:15:30.620+07:002011-01-28T10:15:30.620+07:00Your tirade is unlibertarian - all of these horror...Your tirade is unlibertarian - all of these horrors are predicated on the "right" of a government to even exist. And there is no right for government to exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313916164911265633.post-53730720866490756492011-01-27T21:50:02.436+07:002011-01-27T21:50:02.436+07:00"Birth is not an arbitrary determiner of pers..."Birth is not an arbitrary determiner of personhood."<br /><br />Yes it is. It is as arbitrary a determiner as conception. <br /><br />Traditionally, death (the end of personhood) occurred when a person's heart stopped. Yet today, nobody would solely use the lack of a heart beat to decide a person was dead.<br /><br />I agreee that a woman has a right to unilaterally decide to abort a pregnancy. I don't however agree that aborting a pregnancy includes the right to destroy the fetus.<br /><br />A woman has a right to evict a fetus, no matter how the fetus came into being, but she doesn't have the right to destroy the fetus in the process. <br /><br />Once evicted, the fetus has no claim on the mother (or father). If some other person wishes to assist it, provide for it in its helpless state, then that is their decision, but nobody has the right to deliberately kill it.<br /><br />Arbitrarily setting birth as when human rights begins oversimplifies the reality of mammalian biology. If humans laid eggs, then there probably would be no need for an abortion debate. But humans don't lay eggs, and biology creates overlapping property rights. We can draw lines on where these rights end or begin, but they'll be arbitrary no matter where they are drawn.geoihnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313916164911265633.post-59331785867713132212011-01-27T00:59:21.783+07:002011-01-27T00:59:21.783+07:00Man, you were *this* close to getting it right! It...Man, you were *this* close to getting it right! It all fell apart when you equated a haploid gamete to a full human, and later when you chose to ignore legal arrangements between a person supplying the sperm with the person supplying the egg and/or carrying the fetus as able to terminate the agreement without approval from the other parties.<br /><br />In your world, an external fetus at full term but still tethered by the cord would be subject to termination by the mom.<br /><br />Good try, though...better than most.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5313916164911265633.post-52924249160732164272011-01-26T22:45:38.507+07:002011-01-26T22:45:38.507+07:00I mostly agree. And every single argument I have ...I <a href="http://blog.kentforliberty.com/2008/07/abortion-this-libertariananarchists.html" rel="nofollow">mostly agree</a>. And every single argument I have ever heard against abortion comes down to a religious argument, based on religious views, no matter what the "pro-lifer" claims.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.com